Saturday, August 31, 2019

DEAR INCELS - STOP DOING THAT AND GO AND DO SOMETHING USEFUL

(DISCLAIMER: IF YOU'RE A MAN WHO'S EXPERIENCING SEXUAL FRUSTRATION YOU'RE NOT AN INCEL. YOU'RE ONLY AN INCEL IF YOU'RE PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT PREACHES DISTURBING AND DISTASTEFUL CONTENT THAT IS FEATURED BELOW. FOR THOSE "INCELS" NOT WANTING TO BE "INCELS" SKIP TO "TAKE MY ADVICE". TRIGGER WARNING FOR GRAPHIC AND DISTURBING QUOTES.)

Dear Readers


Bear with me, this is going to be a long one, and quite a grotty subject. Brace yourselves.

Sexual frustration. It's a problem that no man has ever completely avoided throughout his life, not even Russell Brand has managed to avoid it. And if we're completely honest neither do women, and other folks. It's something we all deal with, and it's not exactly something that can be magicked away, but nor is it a permanent problem that nobody can change.

For my own situation, I've had difficulties with women, because my own learning was scrambled. First by mixed messages through media telling me that having sexual interest in women was "creepy" and "shallow", second by my abusive experiences, and being told that "girls are allowed to hit boys but boys aren't allowed to hit girls". (This scared me so much at the age of 12, I would repeatedly slap my own face to toughen myself up, because I thought that most guys were supposed to not feel a thing when a woman did it.)

And on top of this, there was the trauma of being actually sexually assaulted by a girl.

This has made me scared to approach women, not just for the sake of fear of rejection, but fearing my own safety. Fearing being assaulted, verbally abused, or molested coupled with a genuine terror of intimacy (which on one occasion I kissed a girl, I had a panic attack afterwards), and discomfort about my own sexual desires despite wanting to explore them, really makes it colossally hard to enjoy intimacy with someone.

Finding advice on the internet, is of course, a bit of a mine field, so it's been hard to find reliable information. In addition, whenever I've been rejected by a woman, I've not just been disappointed, but even ashamed of myself.

Sounds crazy, right?

Happily, I'm making steps to turn this all around, but it involves sorting myself out. As opposed to being an incel, I've decided to opt out of any attempts to interest women until I've got myself in a better and happier place. Getting a job, getting my university course started, enjoying a few activities to try and help other people and get used to interacting with others (because let's face it, one can get rather reclusive if stuck in the house all day). Hard work and patience I think will pay off in the end.

However, some folks out there don't respond to sexual frustration positively, to say the least. Some of these guys even have less issues than folks like me, and react to not just sexual frustration, but a seeming chronic inability to get laid (which I'm fortunate enough to not have since I've had a couple of mutually respectful sexual partners in my time) or get a partner based on delusion, and what I can only describe as madness.

We're talking about the dreaded 'Black Pill'.

(Interestingly, I was called an 'incel' by some oxygen thieving troll, but that's trolling for you, he also called me a 'cuck' whatever that means.)

I only became recently aware of the 'incel' community online (that's short for 'Involuntary Celibate'), They believe that women will only ever sleep with (or go out with) 'Alphas', i.e. strong and confident men. When they mean that, they also mean men with torsos like an egg box who look like they should be on the front of an Abercrombie and Fitch magazine (though they never quite explain who plenty of ordinary looking men have wives and girlfriends, sometimes even stunningly attractive ones).

They seem to categorise other men being 'Betas', those who're slightly submissive but can still get laid or get a girlfriend (I'm probably like this a bit myself), and 'Omegas' who can't even say hello to a woman (which most incels seem to be). The men that they most hate are 'Chads', who they describe as men who are the most confident and have ease with hooking up with or dating women they find attractive. There's a hell of a lot of what I unscientifically call 'Kaiser Wilhelm syndrome' (the last German Kaiser who hated the British, but also admired the British and wanted to be like them), they can't stand these guys, but they want to be just like them.

When it comes to categorising women, hoo boy! Have I got some misogyny here for you!

'Stacy' is a term that they use to describe women who're the most attractive, and most incels hate, but really want to sleep with. Those women who've slept with a lot of men, they call 'Roasties' because...well it's not hard to figure out, and I feel a bit unclean even thinking about typing it out.

One might say, 'So what? So some idiots on the internet are being idiots, who cares? There are loads of weirdos out there, what's the big deal about these guys? They're offensive and disgusting, but they're not going to do any harm are they?' Well, no. Except...

Probably the most notorious example of this movement was Elliot Rodger and the Isla Vista killings he carried out before committing suicide. For those who don't know, in 2014 a young man called Elliot Rodger armed himself with two pistols and two knives, and attacked a large number of people (men and women) before he was found by the police having shot himself. A lot of third wavers predictably started going on about the 'patriarchy', laughably claimed that 'ALL men have a sense of entitlement to sex' and started their stupid 'motallmen' hashtag, but third wavers like that are generally as loathesome as the incel community, just in a different way (an apt comparison would be dumb and dumber to be honest).

The first most obvious thing that sprang out on me was Elliot Rodger was suffering from some serious mental health issues (not that all mental health sufferers succumb to this level of derangement).

'I started walking along the shore, taking in the magnificence of the gentle, moonlit ocean. It was so...romantic. I kept walking and walking with no destination in mind. The romance of it all filled me with despair and longing. I wanted a girlfriend to experience that moment with me, but no girl wanted to be my girlfriend. The only think I could do was imagine how heavenly it would be to have a beautiful girl my my side. It is such a shameful tragedy...I ended up walking for two hours, and at the end of it I was crying to myself because I felt so sad.'

So far so normal, right? Many normal guys have had this problem themselves. God knows, I've felt like that myself in the past, but usually coupled with the fear of being hurt again. However, this guy took it to a whole new level.

At some level, I liken it to a dog not being socialised, if it becomes too isolated from people and other dogs, it becomes aggressive, defensive, even dangerous. Here's an excellent Ted talk that goes into greater detail than I can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0hxl03JoA0

To some degree, Rodger is said to have never had many friends, and was obsessed with status. Having said all of that, it's not necessarily as if friends didn't try, but apparently he wasn't interested in listening, or putting in the legwork to socialise with others.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2642748/EXCLUSIVE-I-believe-I-friends-psycho-mass-murderer-Virgin-Killers-best-friend-speaks-reveals-warned-Elliot-Rodgers-mother-disturbing-Facebook-post-months-ago.html

The second apparent problem is that Rodger also had some severe personality issues that he needed to straighten out himself.

'I needed a girl's love. I needed to feel worthy as a male. For so long I have felt worthless.'

'Jealousy and envy...those are the two feelings that would dominate my entire life and bring me immense pain.'

'I passed by a girl I thought was pretty and said "Hi" as we neared each other. She kept on walking and didn't even have the grace to respond to me. How dare she! That foul bitch. I felt so humiliated that I went to one of the school bathrooms, locked myself in a toilet stall, and cried for an hour.'

All in all, Rodger could well have straightened out his life, but instead he chose to throw it all away and rob others of theirs in what can only be described as a tragic waste and folly.

I'm not 100% sure if Rodger himself was a member of the 'Incel' community, but what's really disturbing about the 'Incel' movement is that they think that Rodger was an example to follow! They even refer to him as the 'Supreme Gentleman' for crying out loud!

Disturbingly, some have even followed his example, such as Alek Minassian, who killed 10 and injured 16 in Toronto, ramming them with his truck.

'Private (Recruit) Minassian Infantry 00010, wishing to speak to Sgt 4chan please. C23249161. The Incel rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and the Stacys! All hail the supreme gentleman, Elliot Rodger!'

As if that's going to change your luck with women, sunshine.

Of course, don't just take my word for this bizarre and disturbing community, in fact I'll let them say so in their own words.

Some are just more like this guy, an issue that I doubt is exclusive to the 'incel' community. Here he describes feeling inferior to a friend of his.

'First seeing him with his GF, then listening to him talk to his normal close-knit family, and even his very essence of self-assuredness. He is a better human being in every way.'

OK this guy has my sympathy. If you're like him (and I've felt like this in the past, particularly before therapy), then I suggest maybe talking to him, trying to learn a few things from him, and don't beat yourself up over your perceived flaws, they're probably not as bad as you think.

'Being an incel is a suffering not even Stalin could inflict on his worst enemies.'

No, because they'd have to do it to themselves. All you have to do is ditch inceldom and put the work in to turn your life around.

'GUYS WITH GFs DO NOT DESERVE THEM!'

How so?

'They did nothing to deserve pussy. They did not risk their health lifting weights, they did not test their will doing NoFap.'

You do these for yourself, not for this rubbish! If you think that suddenly the world and any women you want is obliged to give you a bit of rumpy pumpy because you lifted a few heavy things, then your sense of reality has taken a serious walk off the map! The funny thing I find is, that when I've experienced third wave feminists spuriously claiming that men who want sex feel they are 'entitled' or 'owed' sex and thus all men have a 'sense of entitlement' - bizarre considering that wanting (consensual) sex is perfectly frigging normal for any adult - they would be bang on the money if they were talking about the incel community, who seem to be deluded to all hell.

'And to the little Asian boy you probably had to strive for so long to finally get a white woman to notice you. And the girl you're making out with isn't even that hot she looks like a feminist harpy with badly colored hair. So yeah, keep making out with that white woman, know that it won't fucking last.'

I've always found racism to be rather creepy, but this is as bizarre as it comes.

'A prostitute is the same thing as a girlfriend. You end up spending your hard-earned money in a gynocentric society (meaning it was twice as hard to make as a man) and then spend a large portion of that on a female who merely 'tolerates' you, but will spread her legs for Chad the minute she drinks a little bit of alcohol.

Because no man has ever cheated on his wife or girlfriend, right?

'I usually go when no one is at the gym. Slender young white girls in tight yoga pants are everywhere...these femoids are everywhere, doing their squats. They are trying to mock me by showing their assets and flaunting them. Women are pure evil and seek my destruction...Do they love inflicting harm on ugly brown men, by flaunting something I will never have? Women are pure cold-blooded evil.

Dude, they're exercising, they probably didn't even notice you. You need to get help. Or just wise up.

'Was there such a thing as the friendzone before the welfare state?'

What the nelly has the welfare state got to do with anything? Ever heard of something called logic?

'I have devoted every single second of my life into getting a GF yet bitches won't talk to me.'

Bit of a mystery why, ain't it?

'Am I doing the right thing? I like to find young girl vloggers and tell them that they're ugly and trash.'

Short answer, no. Long answer, no, non, nein, nyet, nee, na, nei, geen, jo, yox, uimh, hayi, kare, and every other language variant of no.

'Attractive 24 year old female co-worker has two tickets to go to a haunted house, she asked some male co-workers to go with her, WE ALL DECLINED! With all the blue pill white knight cucks around, I'm surprised she didn't find one guy here to take her up on the offer.'

Followed by a thread on 'how to overcome loneliness'.

' I don't want to find a non-virgin woman.'

Why? Never occurred to you that first time sex - take it from someone who knows - is actually pretty awkward and weird, and totally overrated, it's not like in a porno.

'Today I saw a woman crying her eyes out and almost couldn't control my laughter.'

You're just like those horrible 'male tearz' women, you scumbag.

But here are the worst ones. A lot of incels don't necessarily go this far, but just content themselves with moaning about their situation and doing bugger all about it. However, there is a presence who most definitely cross the line and keep going. Trigger warning for racism, sexism, misogyny, misandry, paedophilia references, sexual assault references, incest references, and domestic violence and abuse references.

'I'm about to get a roastie from my job sacked. She's just too ugly to work there and I don't like her. I tell my boss every day how useless she is and he said that he might sack her. I know I'm a rat bastard but I don't care.'

And if she was a stunner you would hate her for not having sex with you, so it's not like the poor woman can win, can she? You misogynistic creep.

'I calmly told [my female friend] that in return for everything I've done for her I deserve a blowjob, or at least a handjob.'

And then he pulled his pants down. (I wish I was making that up!)

'If you think women are people, you're ISIS.'

Maybe you might want to clue yourself into what the news has been reporting what ISIS has been up to, which includes mass rape, you damned fool.

'How do fathers with hot daughters/sisters cope?'

You wot?

'Imagine living in a house with a prime teen girl. Seeing her walk around in her underwear, hear her taking a shower, watching her getting dressed. It takes an insane amount of willpower to get over the fact that you will never bang her.'

I dunno, why don't you ask that nice Mr Fritzl on how to cope with it?*

'I don't hate blacks for being black, and it's not really their fault they're so violent, stupid and aggressive.' 

What's this abhorrent racism got to do with your inability to get laid? OK, probably a lot, but still, why are you bringing it up in the first place?

'We need a constitutional amendment forcing attractive virgin females to have sex with incels.'

So it looks like sex slavery is the answer? And rape. Disgusting.

'12 isn't really prepubescent, by that age girls are already quite far into their development of secondary stage sex characteristics.

The guy later says anyone not attracted to 12 year old girls is gay. Sounds like NAMbLA has a new recruit! (If that's true, I'm glad to be 'gay'!)

'Females deserve to be holocausted.'

Laying aside the revolting approval of gendercide (a real term) and the riding of the coattails of the slaughter of the Holocaust, I have no words to respond to this.

'I groped and rubbed my dick against a woman on the bus home.'

This isn't dancing in a club, that's sexual assault, and you should be ashamed for having done that.

'What would your perfect girlfriend be like? Here's mine. Under 18 years old, accept once in a while being beaten (I have anger issues).

So you want a girl who says; 'You know what turns me on? Paedophiles and men who beat their wives! Mmmm!' Might have a bit of trouble finding that you gross troll.

Anyone who may be triggered by these subject matters or suffers from mental health issues, or is just vulnerable for some other reason, stay away from the incel community. It's horrid if you're their target, and if you have the same problem as they do, they're not going to help you, just make you feel miserable and waste your time.

But while I've ragged on the incels through most of this blog post by now, I'm not going to just content myself with kicking them down to make myself feel proud, because how's that going to achieve anything? So I'm going to address them directly, and instead offer a bit of a kick up the arse and also try and help them.

Look, for any incels reading this, being sexually frustrated is quite common, a lot of men, and even a lot of women have it too. But this? Suggesting killing women for not wanting to sleep with you? Do you actually believe that this nonsense is in any way going to work for you? The misogyny towards women who won't date you won't make you any more attractive, nor the misandry towards men who can actually get sex. And some of the things being quoted here are endorsing horrible, criminal, disgusting, abusive, hateful, or just downright horrid behaviour! (If you're an incel and don't say/do any of these things, do you really want to hang out with people who are like this?)

The world doesn't owe you sex or relationships, it won't just hand it to you on a silver platter, you've got to get out there yourself and look for it. I can't do it for you. You can't expect something for nothing, not in this world, and not when it comes to sex and relationships. And in addition, feeling that because you've done something "nice" in order to get laid and feel short changed because you haven't even got a handjob out of it, sorry but that's not how it works. If she's not attracted to you, she doesn't want to sleep with you, and if she doesn't want to sleep with you, she doesn't have to. And failing to realise this is hardly what anyone finds attractive in a partner. (My own abuser had this attitude after I rejected her, I haven't forgiven her for what she did next. Do you really want to go where she did and get her to hate you for trying to jump her? I don't think so somehow.)

I'll admit, I've had my issues with the opposite sex, sometimes been angry at women after my experiences of abuse - when being sexually assaulted it's pretty common and understandable among both men and women to have this feeling, I call it 'red eye moments' and they're based on fear and pain.

However, even at my worst, I've NEVER dreamed of killing women or anyone for that matter, certainly never for not wanting to sleep with me! Having been actually sexually assaulted, and having asperger's syndrome, I'm at a slight disadvantage, but I've had it a LOT worse than most of you incel types and I'm appalled at what I'm seeing. In fact, I find it quite annoying that despite having gone through less, a lot of you cross the line in some truly shocking ways. This is honestly on the same level as those in the third wave feminists who say that all men are deserving of hatred and contempt because some are abusers.

Fortunately, for those people messed up, misguided or crazy enough to be in the so-called 'incel' community, I have a way out (and no, going 'Oh but I did that it's too hard' is NOT an excuse and probably just an outright lie). But don't take my word for it, this is coming straight from some in the 'incel' community who've seen the light and finally woken up to some sense:

1) 'Shouldn't we be encouraging each other? Something I've noticed from being on this site is that whenever someone tries to make an effort to improve themselves (like gymcelling) to get a gf, people try to put them down to make sure they don't achieve anything. Wouldn't it be more productive to wish people good luck with their goals to get laid? Also shouldn't we congratulate those who do finally ascend? Just something I don't understand much.'

2) 'Is a fat fuck, start going to the gym trying to do something to get my life back on track, start doing cardio because I'm too intimidated to lift weights, finally like 3am when I thought no one was around, I go over to try and squat. Try an empty bar since I've only done body weight squats before. Wild "Chad"** comes out of nowhere, "Hey bro, let me help you out". Takes an hour out of his night to show me a few lifts, tells me when he's here and that he's always happy to help. Keep bumping into Chad when working out, he's always helpful and nice to me. He keeps trying to get me over to his place for Beer Pong, keep thinking it's gonna be like Carrie, but finally go, Chad and all his friends are nice as hell. Ended up getting a date with some chick that was there, got laid for the first time in years.'

3) 'Today at the pool I saw something that rattled my beliefs about relationships and psychology. This fat dude was chillin in the pool with what I can only assume was his GF because of how they kept physically touching each other and how close they were to each other. They also looked like they were having the time of their lives. I saw genuine joy in both of their faces. They both looked to be about in their early 20s, so this kinda disproves that she was using him as a beta male provider because women usually turn to them once they're old, used and worn out. I thought hot women in their 20s only pursued Chad cock? IDK what to believe anymore. I look at myself, a guy with a good build, and good muscle, with a 6/10 face, (although I'm 5'7'') and I wonder why this fat dude has this beautiful girl while I've never even hugged a girl before. Maybe, just maybe a funny personality and confidence is what made this guy get this girl? I'm kind of at a loss

4) 'Don't know if you guys hear this a lot, but subs like /r/justneckbeardthings, r/niceguys, and this one*** made me realise my point of view about women was just straight up wrong (I'm 17) I mean I used to agree with a lot of things being said on r/incels, that's how bad it was. I used to be addicted to gaming and depressed (I still am a little bit) but I learned I had to improve myself and love myself if I wanted someone to love me back. So I just wanted to say thank you for steering me in the right direction. Thanks for the support and the advice, it means a lot...the tremendous amount of support has made me even more motivated to live a happy life and make other people happy.'

5) 'You're such fucking liars. Asked out a girl today, and she said yes. Not just any girl, but one I hoped may have at least some of the same interests as mine and my same mindset. She said yes and also smiled. So fuckin happy today.. You made me think I need to look like a fuckin Calvin Klein model for a girl to talk to me yeah go fuck yourself dumb fucks. At best, if I looksmax, I'm average. So as for that, yeah, you're just full of shit thinking you should be 10/10 for a girl to love you. Taking her to a national park tomorrow night. And I don't care if I don't "recreate" or whatever the fuck it is, at least I have finally found someone.'

If you STILL don't believe me, look up Jono Lancaster, a fellow with 'treacher collins syndrome' that results in facial deformities, and yet he has a beautiful and loving girlfriend (or wife, I don't know of their current status TBH), a daughter with her, he's a model, a fitness trainer, and it hasn't stopped him.

In fact, I remember seeing a girl with the same condition in York railway station and she was talking about her boyfriend. Rather than thinking 'If even he/she can get it, then what does that say about me?' perhaps consider thinking 'If he/she can then so can I!' - just a thought!

If you're an "incel" and reading this now, and you're NOT like the above description (or even if you are), take my advice.

Get out of the incel community.

Get away from a group that's just bound to drag you down. It's not going to improve your love life. But don't waste time beating yourself up for having been a member of the group, that won't help you either. The most important thing is that you're changing your life and yourself for the better.

Learn to love yourself, get some decent clothes and take care of your appearance. Maybe start getting some exercise if you don't do so already, it'll improve your appearance and your physical and mental health. And if you don't have the body of a Chippendale stripper, so what? Women don't care that much about that, not as much as men. And don't beat yourself up for being a virgin or whatever, if your partner is worth their time they won't care - something to bear in mind about her as well, who cares if she isn't a virgin?

If you haven't got a job, start trying to find one. Keep looking for something suitable to your skills and abilities, preferably not one with unsociable hours (I'd recommend avoiding call centres, they're horrible).

Get out and get some hobbies, not just gaming or computery-box internet stuff, some proper activities that you enjoy doing. Who knows what that might be? I myself do a bit of grease monkey stuff, drama, and dog walking for old couples too old to walk their pooches.

Start using these activities as a chance to meet people, especially social activities where you get to meet people, especially those the same age as you, moreso if there are more women than men doing it. Why not take up yoga? There are plenty of attractive women there. Of if you're into nerd culture, why not go to a gaming convention or event? Or just go down to the gym and start chatting to those women you see there. They won't bite!

Start socialising with other people, most people aren't hostile (It's taken a lot of therapy for me to realise that, and it's still taking time to emotionally remember, but logically it's true). Get chatting to people to get used to making friends, why not make friends with a guy who's good with women? Most of them are more than likely happy to help you out (certainly more than my best mate who was as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike but that's another story).

Work on your confidence and sense of self-worth. Confidence is the most important thing you can have as a man when it comes to sex and relationships. It's easier said than done often, especially if you have depression, but it can be overcome. Women are attracted to confident men, whether they look like so-called "Chads" or not. And if you don't love yourself, other people certainly wont!

Start talking to women, practice flirting. It's OK to fuck up, you're not going to be arrested for being a rapist if you're a bit awkward by mistake, you're not going to be accused of sexual harassment, beaten up by a "Chad" or slapped or kicked in the groin. All flirting is, is basically acting interested in a woman, while being charming and not really serious. Women love it, and if they respond in a hostile way or flirt with you with a boyfriend around, you're better off without them! Don't be afraid to fail, remember what I said about confidence!

If you're going to ask her out, get to know her a bit first, rather than going from 0 to 60 in five seconds. Women like to be warmed up a bit, both socially and sexually. But when you ask, take the bull by the horns and ask. Nothing terrible will happen if you say no, she'll probably respect you more for actually asking! Besides, she might well say yes!

If you get rejected, don't blame her because she's not necessarily doing it because she hates you, rather that she's not in the mood, maybe she prefer's women, maybe you just don't click, that's OK. She's allowed to decide not to have sex or date other people, as are you to others. If you've made a mistake, learn from it, don't beat yourself up over it or overthink either, and don't hate yourself for being rejected. There's no way to guarantee rejection in dating, that's fine. Accept that, and the whole game will seem much less daunting.

If you have trouble with how to deal with women, you could even approach a sexual surrogate, they actually help men and women (because this isn't just a male problem) overcome intimacy issues. It sounds strange, but it might work!

If you're taking her on a date, don't make it a formal dinner thing or cinema unless you're both super into it, you'll be better off to do something fun. My brother for instance likes to go for hiking walks with this girl he's dating at the moment. Or visiting a tourist spot, going for a fun activity like quad biking or segway riding, whatever you feel like doing. Perhaps you could brush up on your cooking skills, girls love a guy who can cook them a nice meal!

If you're unsure about where you stand with a girl (as in if you're not sure if you should touch them or kiss them), check out her body language and facial expressions (there are plenty of articles documenting this) but if you're 100% unsure, just ask! She won't mind!

Don't forget when it comes to sex and intimacy, consent is mandatory, even if she says no at the last second - in which case, just make her feel comfortable and don't pressure her. She might decide she wants to after all, but even if she doesn't don't worry. Just enjoy doing whatever you've already been doing. But forcing someone else into sexual activity is abuse and an offence.

And when it comes to sex, make sure you focus your mind on getting her off rather than yourself, because then you'll really make her feel amazing. Don't just concentrate on her boobs and arse, try exploring other parts of her body. (Also don't try and make your trouser snake do all the work, use everything else, and she'll return the favour.)

If you have a one night stand with a girl, why not walk her home? Especially if it's dark outside. Even if it's only a one off, she'll remember you for that, even if you've not been great in bed. (If you are, she'll probably remember you VERY fondly!)

Don't beat yourself up over your mistakes or waste time dwelling on the past when people have hurt you, that's not going to get you anywhere (again, something I've had to learn).

If you have mental issues, especially ones that make you want to harm people, for goodness' sake find some help! I've had mental issues myself (more based on self-loathing rather than wanting to hurt people). There is help out there for you, and if you work at it and really put in a year's worth of effort, you can see a marked difference. It won't happen instantly, but keep at it and it will. It's working for me, and I hate to break it to you, but if you want to change all of this, there's no alternative.

But for any of you who've mocked other people's suffering or wished harm on innocent people just because of your issues in trying to get your rocks off, you need to take a good long look at yourselves.

(You've got a point about pickup artists being scammers though!)


Sincerely,

The Invisible Man

(QUICK NOTE: I have heard that there's a female counterpart to the incels, but I don't know much about them.)

*This isn't a literal suggestion, but a joke. Josef Fritzl is actually my least favourite human being on the planet.

**My quotation marks.

***I'm not sure which one he's referring to, but I'll post it if I find out.

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